tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post5303020324019256289..comments2023-11-05T05:17:45.320-05:00Comments on Model Minority "Thugs, Feminists and Boom Bap": For Colored Girls who Considered Homicide When Patricarchy was EnoughM.Dot.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-77260493255668458462008-07-07T17:10:00.000-04:002008-07-07T17:10:00.000-04:00Black Girl Fatigue sounds like a song title fam!Black Girl Fatigue sounds like a song title fam!neohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482376355312549331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-54144746338971664752008-07-02T10:05:00.000-04:002008-07-02T10:05:00.000-04:00The skin color topic hits close to home because me...The skin color topic hits close to home because me and Nic always talk about it, especially after she saw a pic of my Grandad (father's father) with my grandmother(he was very dark and she was very light) and wondered if that preference ran in the family. Great post.<BR/>=======<BR/>Say word?<BR/>Thats bugged out.<BR/><BR/>Espec w/ little sis & the younce conversation too.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-91959976349017510032008-07-02T01:22:00.000-04:002008-07-02T01:22:00.000-04:00Damn Neen patriarchy in full effect. Sorry that bu...Damn Neen patriarchy in full effect. Sorry that bullshit ruined a good night of Spinna. The scary thing about patriarchy is that is seeps into all aspects of our existence and affects in ways that most people aren't (or are and just don't care) aware of. <BR/>The skin color topic hits close to home because me and Nic always talk about it, especially after she saw a pic of my Grandad (father's father) with my grandmother(he was very dark and she was very light) and wondered if that preference ran in the family. Great post.jpollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123457281764922599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-2768278065737254402008-06-27T13:47:00.000-04:002008-06-27T13:47:00.000-04:00I am glad you identify love.Gurrrlllll wait until ...I am glad you identify love.<BR/><BR/>Gurrrlllll wait until you see what I just wrote about about David "keep you legs closed" Banner.<BR/><BR/>Glad to see you stopped by tho.<BR/><BR/>On your byrd for the weekend? Shiiit. It is what it is.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-72062921821287522242008-06-27T13:22:00.000-04:002008-06-27T13:22:00.000-04:00The post is something I identify with too much.It'...The post is something I identify with too much.<BR/><BR/>It's too much to wish that a crowded bar was the proper place to ask Ms. Patriarchy about her familiarity with your personal space, right?<BR/><BR/>But where are these conversations going to be held <BR/>between black women and white women about gender, stereotyping and Michelle Obama...not as thought provoking posts but face to face conversations about stuff that has been whispered, acknowledged in bits and pieces.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Gloria Steinem or Melissa Harris Lacewell will start it with another op ed in the Times?<BR/><BR/>I'm going to be thinking about this all weekend.MartiniCocoahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12509335664000215080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-13974005009926392222008-06-27T07:52:00.000-04:002008-06-27T07:52:00.000-04:00Yeah man. I wrote that shit and I was Whoop...ther...Yeah man. I wrote that shit and I was Whoop...there the Title Is For Certain....Built in recognition....but that ish is going to be used for those Crack Essays and what not...what I am envisioning<BR/>is a kind of "To Be Real" remember Rebeccas ish, but all brown girls on some Post Hip Hop, Post Crack shit with specific goal of taking the minds of a 14 Black adult/child somewhere else..... (for a least 200 pages)<BR/><BR/>Grandfather's club<BR/>=======<BR/>Dude...as I have always contended your families social justice background is beastie...Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-90234347654030593642008-06-27T00:47:00.000-04:002008-06-27T00:47:00.000-04:00I'm always down to write a lil something something...I'm always down to write a lil something something..<BR/><BR/>by the way i love this title because the original play For Colored Girls was developed in my Grandfather's club and my cousin was the choreographer of the Broadway show. <BR/><BR/>My Poppa was always taking care of the up and comings of the times, gave Maya Angelou drinks on the house when she was down on her luck, as well as Christopher Garder (the dude from Pursuit of Happyness)<BR/><BR/>and at my beauty shop we talk shit about women driving Benzes living in the projects!!A.u.n.t. Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06342245586271716564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-80487570243641921362008-06-26T22:55:00.000-04:002008-06-26T22:55:00.000-04:00But on another note the hyper sexualized advances ...But on another note the hyper sexualized advances of women is such disturbing to me.<BR/>=========<BR/><BR/>Girl thats that patriarchy.<BR/><BR/>The gender means nothing.<BR/><BR/>Just like with that DL shit, the label means nothing.<BR/><BR/>Its about the actions of the individuals, feel me?<BR/><BR/>I am thinking of putting together an anthology of (black) women writing about, hair, bodies and sex. General sh*t that we talk about in the beauty shop or brunch. You down?Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-60160910299285031982008-06-26T19:42:00.000-04:002008-06-26T19:42:00.000-04:00I come from a large family of mixed heritage and m...I come from a large family of mixed heritage and my Grandmother and I had a joke between ourselves that we were lucky to just be brown...<BR/><BR/>I don't have my father's green eyes, nor my mother's fair skin. I have more blond haired blued eyed cousins that I can count with folks who take great pride in how long their hair grows and all kinds of stuff I thought was bullsh*t until I heard the stories...<BR/><BR/>Of what it was like to get chased, or beat up, or teased cuz you had funny colored hair or eyes, or didn't speak good English...that made me love my brown skin even more.<BR/><BR/>But on another note the hyper sexualized advances of women is such disturbing to me. It's as though some women have learned to emulate the disturbing traits of the men whom they resent. A vicious cycle.A.u.n.t. Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06342245586271716564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-29617774735715625402008-06-26T16:22:00.000-04:002008-06-26T16:22:00.000-04:00I don't know if I'm late, but they re-did the doll...I don't know if I'm late, but they re-did the doll test in 2006.<BR/>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6181729<BR/>Equally distrubing.<BR/>Equally troubling.cortohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10614791913587873690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-443077403938169972008-06-26T07:03:00.000-04:002008-06-26T07:03:00.000-04:00Damn kids are mean right… So I did what any father...Damn kids are mean right… So I did what any father would do..<BR/>====<BR/><BR/>While Kids are Mean, they LEARN EVERYTHING from us.<BR/><BR/> I told her that she has the privilege of being of a mixed family and she has the best of both worlds when it comes to being a human being in this life, <BR/>====<BR/>Understand that I ask this, because I have struggled with HOW we can build of the self esteem of one w/o doing so on the backs of others.<BR/><BR/>By framing it is a privilege, do you set the stage for her to think, perhaps at a later date, that she is better than those who are not mixed (at least in the conventional sense).<BR/><BR/>Why can’t I just be me and people like me for me and not make fun? <BR/>=====<BR/>Because love, making fun is a tool that people will use to try and control you. They will do it now and for the rest of your life. Nothing personal. We just develop the tools to recognize and cope.<BR/><BR/>You remind me of a piece I want to write on how much more sensitive Black men are to our hair/skin/body shit AFTER yall have daughters of your own.<BR/><BR/>I am grateful that you were there for her.<BR/><BR/>Shit I just had a lecture from my DAD in APRIL 2008, on allowing people to control me through guilt (an aunt) and bullying ( a boss).<BR/>That shit changed my life.Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-69923792770799769142008-06-26T00:25:00.000-04:002008-06-26T00:25:00.000-04:00my queryhow do blk women contribute to thismy query<BR/>how do blk women contribute to thisAll-Mi-T [Thought Crime] Rawdawgbuffalohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08843040863123899426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-28829784894855375112008-06-25T23:08:00.000-04:002008-06-25T23:08:00.000-04:00This piece especially the video, stirred a memory ...This piece especially the video, stirred a memory from last year shared between my daughter and I from last year.<BR/>My daughter that is of mixed heritage, Mom is Puerto Rican and I am a Black man. She is a beautiful honey colored girl that catches a serious tan in the summer time with big, green eyes that light up the room. During the school year, she lives with her mom and in the summer time, she spends it in the city with me. When she is in school she’s surrounded by schoolchildren from various backgrounds; Asian, White, Black and Spanish. On the flip side when she is with me she is surrounded by Black and Spanish kids with street knowledge and attitude. One day last year, she came home from the Y upset and distant. At first, she didn’t want to talk and tell me what was going on but after dinner I got it out of her. The local kids down at the Y and some of her friends got into an argument about what she is. One of the little girls called her a ‘white girl’ because of eye color and her hair. Another girl told my daughter that she was too dark to be Spanish and that her hair was too straight to be black so she had to be white. Damn kids are mean right… So I did what any father would do..<BR/>I hugged my daughter and gave her a big kiss told her to forget them. Then I went to the photo album and showed her a picture of her great-grandmother. Grandma is almost a splitting image of my daughter being of the same mixed heritage but different eye color. When I started to point out the similarities of the two, that toothy smile returned. Mission accomplished right…nah. She looks at me with those green eyes and asks me, Why is so bad that I look black? Why can’t I just be me and people like me for me and not make fun? I told her that she has the privilege of being of a mixed family and she has the best of both worlds when it comes to being a human being in this life, not to worry about other people’s labels about what is what and just worry about being the best person that you can be while you are alive. Strive to acknowledge your own existence and what it is that you are here to accomplish in life: love, education and honesty. Those things can never be taken away from you. <BR/>I told this story because I think that it is important for the parents of these children and other children to be held accountable for relaying the message. What is beauty? Is it black, is it white, is it being accepted by your peers whether it be girls or boys? Or, is it a question of the proper time and effort put into recognizing that all LIFE is beautiful. We cannot help what the media portrays as beauty. We can just try to reinforce these young people in their darkest hour when the tears fall along with their confidence and let them know that beauty or image has a lot to do with how you feel inside. Reinforcement of these values can only come from the parents and such important values cannot be left for the children to decipher.<BR/>Say wordAnwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10829242557701100376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-40421606291571624822008-06-25T20:40:00.000-04:002008-06-25T20:40:00.000-04:00Anytime yo on the J-StorI'll peep the Phonte..I've...Anytime yo on the J-Stor<BR/><BR/>I'll peep the Phonte..I've been meaning to, Tiggalo is a funny dude<BR/><BR/>On the club...We might be advanced...but we are still just avanced mammals...And we create are rituals...and some are just imbedded.<BR/><BR/>I hear you loud and clear on the Respect issue and consiqunces of not paying it tho maDamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982320011550967426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-18977495669398703102008-06-25T12:04:00.000-04:002008-06-25T12:04:00.000-04:00What up Ill...Thank you for the JSTOR...that shit ...What up Ill...Thank you for the JSTOR...that shit made my day...Uhhh Listen to the phonte...<BR/><BR/>The issue isn't the praise. The issue is the praise and the little girl calling the black doll ugly then choosing that as the one that looks like her. Its the two-fer. The pacakge as dig dug would call it.<BR/><BR/>Uhhh. <BR/>The club is nothing more than a mating ritual that humans particapate in <BR/>======<BR/>Since when did mating rituals have to do with Spandex, cologne and Loud assed music. But, now that I say that, uhhh...You are letting folks off too easy ock.<BR/><BR/>Dance floor or not, we have an obligation to respect each others humanity. Or be prepared to duck bullets.Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-20715677740508115622008-06-25T11:12:00.000-04:002008-06-25T11:12:00.000-04:00The club is nothing more than a mating ritual that...The club is nothing more than a mating ritual that humans particapate in <BR/><BR/>Period point blank<BR/><BR/>It's homospapian Discovery channel ish...<BR/><BR/>Gender always plays a role in how we respond to shit.....admitedly most time in the wrong, a sometimes in a good way to <BR/><BR/>"Herpes is the package that keeps on giving, don't touch me.<BR/>1 in 4 people in New York city has it. Don't touch me"<BR/><BR/>lol wow.....<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I agree that that video will hurt a persons soul, that ish crushed me for a quick min and I can only imagine what its like for a Black Women<BR/><BR/>I do haft to wonder aloud, and ask, why when someone praises a certian type of female, other types of women look at it as a neggive slight against them or as a form of rejection? I didn't listen to the Phonte podcast so I dont know if, the show disparged other shades or not, or if you took in it the way I described (I'm known to be wrong sometimes) but that is how it comes off to me as I type this.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Black Girl Consider Homicide when Patriarchy is Enough."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Crazy Powerful last LineDamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982320011550967426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-74926420184174067712008-06-25T11:10:00.000-04:002008-06-25T11:10:00.000-04:00Heyyy Vince...and again Congratulations on your Lo...Heyyy Vince...and again Congratulations on your Love Bears!<BR/><BR/>Dude. Don't get me started on the Self Esteem.<BR/><BR/>I never thought about how Different places/cities treat the skin/hair/body trifecta differently.<BR/><BR/>I got into Spellman, but didn't go. One of the reasons was hearing the story of a light skinned girl on campus, with long hair, was held down, and her hair was cut off. I know. Bad urban stories.<BR/>Sometimes, I wish I gave the decision more thought, because of the support Network that Spellman has. But that hair shit scared the death outta me.<BR/><BR/>Its like. Fuck. Between the skin, the hair and the video vixens...Colored. Girl. Homicide.Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-12045599231127137262008-06-25T10:29:00.000-04:002008-06-25T10:29:00.000-04:00Interesting. Makes me wonder why you didn't sucke...Interesting. Makes me wonder why you didn't sucker punch sis in the mouth but I understand that you have to keep your cool and be nonviolent sometimes. <BR/><BR/>Also, this makes me think about my girl and her frequent discussions about Black women's self esteem issues in regards to their skin color and hair texture. She's from New Orleans and tells me that they practice a more upfront racism down there than up here in Philly.<BR/><BR/>Vincent<BR/>thimk.wordpress.comvincentlopezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10843404269738789974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-44945879113082711482008-06-25T08:50:00.000-04:002008-06-25T08:50:00.000-04:00Girl, thank you. you welcome. Its good to come fro...Girl, thank you. you welcome. <BR/>Its good to come from the heart and be felt. That shit is rare and I appreciate it.<BR/><BR/>I think that girl in the club (which by the way, i am sorry that happened to you) who protected patriarchy also performed femininity in a way that mae you the other.<BR/>=======<BR/>This is NY. Women Flirt. Men Flirt.<BR/>But that "D-Bo, Gimme Yo number or imma sock you shit" is NOT acceptable. <BR/>The tools that you need to navigate this ish is incredible.<BR/><BR/>I didn't want to write this post. I am cool off whining. Then I was listening to Phonte and saw that video and was like The Fuck?<BR/><BR/>Shit...now I am working on some "What if Dee Barnes Was Dee Greenberg?"<BR/><BR/>Dre would have done 10/years in ThePen. Feel me. So yeah.<BR/><BR/>Shit, far as i am concerned, "I" could have been Dee Barnes.<BR/><BR/>Where "IS" Dee Barnes.Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-13222265563257141522008-06-24T15:59:00.000-04:002008-06-24T15:59:00.000-04:00Such a DOPE essay!! I don't even know where to sta...Such a DOPE essay!! I don't even know where to start. There are so many experiences that I can share with you that definitely touch on the argument you have raised. <BR/><BR/>I think you answered a lot of the questions you have raised. The fact that Michelle is not feminine enough..which (we know) she can't be cuz Hilary would not be considered feminine if Michelle was. I think that girl in the club (which by the way, i am sorry that happened to you) who protected patriarchy also performed femininity in a way that mae you the other. And you made that point in the essay. i.e.Patriarchy, white supremacy, hetersexism rely on the other. <BR/>I really like how you connect your lived experience with these critical issues. I know you not feeling Patricia but your examples raise the very think she discusses in BFT. =)<BR/><BR/>Thank you for writing this piece!!RPoetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082399497674613513noreply@blogger.com