tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post5532738806415665753..comments2023-11-05T05:17:45.320-05:00Comments on Model Minority "Thugs, Feminists and Boom Bap": Women Who Like Hip Hop Are Idiots. Pt. I.M.Dot.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-50197775944554559442007-08-07T14:18:00.000-04:002007-08-07T14:18:00.000-04:00I'm black, African though.==========Interesting. G...I'm black, African though.<BR/>==========<BR/>Interesting.<BR/><BR/> Growing up in the US creates unspeakably complex personal racial histories which immigrants like me have less experience with.<BR/>===========<BR/>Um. Yall was colonized too no?<BR/><BR/>Then the distinction is growing up with a majority that LOOKS like you.<BR/><BR/>As opposed growing up a "model minority".<BR/><BR/>I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CRAZY international readers, and I never hear from you all.<BR/><BR/>Glad you spoke up.<BR/><BR/>Was trying to pull your card, I'd just like the conversation to continue to some kind of logical end I guess.<BR/>=======<BR/>Not a problem.<BR/><BR/>I think when I do the pimps up hoes down review, I will have more concl.<BR/><BR/>~md.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-43205365528737876442007-08-06T10:22:00.000-04:002007-08-06T10:22:00.000-04:00I'm black, African though. Didn't grow up in the U...I'm black, African though. Didn't grow up in the US, my experiences and world view have always been different from people who the African American experience. Growing up in the US creates unspeakably complex personal racial histories which immigrants like me have less experience with. <BR/><BR/>Was trying to pull your card, I'd just like the conversation to continue to some kind of logical end I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-5265845994264964652007-08-04T15:23:00.000-04:002007-08-04T15:23:00.000-04:00If the vast majority of Hip Hop crafted is molded ...If the vast majority of Hip Hop crafted is molded from the clay of Black Male Destruction how can we be expected to respect Women when we don’t love and respect ourselves in general? <BR/>================<BR/>^^^^^Nerd.<BR/>Nice.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-79820338543326035922007-08-04T15:21:00.000-04:002007-08-04T15:21:00.000-04:00FLINT.YOU NAILED IT.I suppose to do a missy Post l...FLINT.<BR/>YOU NAILED IT.<BR/>I suppose to do a missy Post last summner and I was f*cking slipping.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/>Missy Post. Coming up next week.<BR/><BR/>I can enjoy and not be consumed by it, because I'm not of it. <BR/>======<BR/>You Black, White, Latino, Asian?<BR/>Im currrious.<BR/>Let a dame know.<BR/><BR/>it'd be nice to move to some actual conclusions rather than ending with a SMH and going on in with no further revelations. <BR/>===============<BR/>FUCK YOOOOO.<BR/>Are you trynna pull my card.<BR/>OMG.<BR/>Suffice it is to say that the ending was wack/lame.<BR/>I really look to the readers to add to the conclusion.<BR/><BR/>While I will infact start working on one, <BR/>what would you like to hear about specifilly in the concl?M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-72624307055818337372007-08-04T11:09:00.000-04:002007-08-04T11:09:00.000-04:00I would not label you hypocrites, nor do I feel on...I would not label you hypocrites, nor do I feel one term is strong enough to encompass the rationale yall employ, while trying to implement a level or righteousness into your action while maneuvering through a ghastly economic system that utilizes compromising of principles as an accelerant. <BR/><BR/>To be honest I’m not that comfortable with the term “slore”, nor am I a subscriber to gender bias when it comes to application of sexual appetite. Like most groups I feel like that there is a myriad of thought and rationale within the whole “video girl” family. Some are soulless money chasers which would not make them any different from millions of others in different professions, others might not have been exposed to a level information that would spawn contemplation about themselves and how the imagery they might take part in creating dehumanizes themselves there race and WOMEN, as a whole. Some really might just love with they do, and be some of the greatest people in the world. To use and example…I hate pigs….but I know all pigs aren’t racist, abusers of power. To make a broad based highly slanderous accusation about someone solely based on there profession is reckless to me.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Hmmm ummm lets see…<BR/><BR/><BR/>Jedi Mind Tricks “Nada Cambia”<BR/><BR/>"I'm like Mussolini, I rule with a iron fist<BR/>I stab you in the bladder with a dagger and watch you die in piss<BR/>Cut inside your wrist, drink the bloodmoney<BR/>And your face is the perfect place for a slug, money<BR/>You ain't a thug money, you all maggots<BR/>You like to chill and hold hands with faggots<BR/>You like to conduct yourself like a savage<BR/>You like the smell of males on your mattress<BR/>Cause that's established, I fuckin hate you<BR/>I hate your mother and father, because they made you<BR/>I hate the universe, because it create you<BR/>I hate everyone and anything that embrace you<BR/>Who fuckin raised you? You a fuckin disgrace!<BR/>And if you come around my way you get bucked in the face<BR/>Get snuffed in the face, then I wack you<BR/>With razors, nines, guns and what have you"<BR/><BR/><BR/>I know……..this blog is dealing with women…but I’m trying to take the meaning of “outta pocket” to all levels.<BR/><BR/>I’ve come to point in my life where I, at least consciously, treat women on a equal plane with men…<BR/><BR/>But even tho..I’m not homophobic, think they should be allowed to become married, receive benefits and all of that good stuff, in all actuality my actions are no more better than a shaky liberals would be…<BR/><BR/>Listing and thoroughly enjoying songs like this and Styles P “Kill That Faggot” (It’s just the chorus that’s really all that bad), Shows me I might have some ways to travel in my thought…<BR/><BR/><BR/>But…. <BR/><BR/>The old maxim of You gotta love yaself before you can love and respect anyone else holds up in this conversation.. If the vast majority of Hip Hop crafted is molded from the clay of Black Male Destruction how can we be expected to respect Women when we don’t love and respect ourselves in general?Damehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03982320011550967426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-50131832985648109892007-08-03T13:46:00.000-04:002007-08-03T13:46:00.000-04:00First off, to counter Lil Kim, I offer Missy. I've...First off, to counter Lil Kim, I offer Missy. I've recently come around to the opinion that Supa Dupa Fly has to count as one of the top 25 Hip Hop albums of all time and that girl wore a fat suit in the biggest video for that album. Sure Missy's come around to being sexier over time, but you can't deny that she's pushed her creativity far more than herr sexuality at all times.<BR/><BR/>Second funny thing is that this site came to mind cause I just read the section of Nelson George's <I>Hip Hop America</I> where he discusses critiquing 2 Live Crew at Spelman college and I thought to myself, I wonder what MM is up to these days... The debates haven't moved much huh?<BR/><BR/>One of my takes on this issue has always been that as a thoughtful and intelligent person, I can consume entertainment without being consumed by it. I don't call women bitches or hoes or treat them as such, hence even though I know the words to a lot of songs with some pretty deplorable music, the effect on my actual thinking and behavior is limited. I mean I've laughed at some completely out of hand shit (Luke, Akinyele, that Snoop shit) but still wince when I see that kind of thing in real life. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, that is partially because I have the advantage of not having grown up in the same hoods and environments that most rappers do. I can enjoy and not be consumed by it, because I'm not of it. A great deal of hip hop's consumers don't have that choice and perhaps by endorsing rappers with these views, I do a disservice to those whom it affects. That argument goes for a lot of the perceived negatives of hip hop.<BR/><BR/>I've got no answers but I'm interested in hearing the rest of this debate and it'd be nice to move to some actual conclusions rather than ending with a SMH and going on in with no further revelations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-24052815696446321962007-08-03T10:17:00.000-04:002007-08-03T10:17:00.000-04:00this ya avy got me checking for it something hoard...this ya avy got me checking for it something hoard...neohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482376355312549331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-84970701214950858252007-08-02T18:26:00.000-04:002007-08-02T18:26:00.000-04:00You silly dude.You silly dude.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-52451985016124298502007-08-02T18:19:00.000-04:002007-08-02T18:19:00.000-04:00I don't get it.========Sorry, it's a mash up of li...I don't get it.<BR/>========<BR/><BR/>Sorry, it's a mash up of like fifty different quotes into one.<BR/><BR/>Jay told the girl in the song that she was his "trick"...<BR/><BR/>The Two Dollars came in.....<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>You know what?<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Never mind. Poor attempt at humor. But at least I can admit I make mistakes.<BR/><BR/>To the bar! Patrón for everybody!She Hate Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934970152588461352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-88127442013868873042007-08-02T17:48:00.000-04:002007-08-02T17:48:00.000-04:00But here's two dollars for cab money, 'cause you n...But here's two dollars for cab money, 'cause you not riding with me<BR/>=======<BR/><BR/>I don't get it.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-61032702539702743422007-08-02T17:42:00.000-04:002007-08-02T17:42:00.000-04:00I would be in total error if I were to say everyon...I would be in total error if I were to say everyone is a hypocrite.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I only know about me.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And you can't spell hypocrite without O in it.<BR/><BR/>I know I've said one thing, thought something else, and done something almost completely different from what I've thought and said. Too bad I mirror hip-hop.<BR/><BR/>Sprite had it totally wrong. Image, especially in Hip-Hop, is everything.<BR/><BR/>Neo has it right. I know within the building I work in, you see women who have the look of running for a political seat, but, honestly, the only thing they running for is "That Thing" © Lauryn.<BR/><BR/>It's scary to think that because of some people, every woman has to be lumped into the same pile of "slores". I've met 1 or 2 VV in my lifetime (it pays to be around Pharrell and them....) and, honestly, they didn't come off as some dollar store hookers.<BR/><BR/>I think that for every woman who tries to keep her legs closed, only dress that way for the video, is actually trying to make it, there's two that does the exact opposite; they don't care what goes down, as long as that have that almighty dollar.<BR/><BR/>Hip-hop has more than it's fair share of hypocrites. I can run off at least 5 or 6 rappers that aren't who they play off the top of my head... and what's bad is, they are starting to believe their own act.<BR/><BR/>Last time I was rapping along to something completely off kilter for me? Cashimere Thoughts. I wouldn't make a female hop on her good foot if she had a broke leg...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>But here's two dollars for cab money, 'cause you not riding with me. <BR/><BR/>Just playing. Or am I being hypocritical again?She Hate Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934970152588461352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-90248536959169770242007-08-02T17:38:00.000-04:002007-08-02T17:38:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.She Hate Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07934970152588461352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-59235791375733787902007-08-02T16:08:00.000-04:002007-08-02T16:08:00.000-04:00I used to feel that when screaming obscenities at ...I used to feel that when screaming obscenities at the height of my bone thug era...<BR/><BR/>We are hypocrites in a sense and I agree with TMR some of us can critically offset the repugnancy in those lyrics whilst understanding the conditions that bring such lyrics to the forefront but rappers do have the responsibility to make it clear through their physical actions outside the booth and offstage that "hey whilst I'm rapping about shooting person A or B, its not REAL!"<BR/><BR/>the sad thing is hip hop more than any other genre is so self-consumed with "keeping it real" and making everything seem authentic as if that in of itself powers its very charisma and so it turns into a vicious and often in some cases violent cycle (see "Stop snitching" and deaths of somem rappers).<BR/><BR/>I feel my generation of up and coming emcees need to let the kids know some of what we rap about is a means to an end. Not necessarily the end itself. Yes, its ok to talk about your life, but sometimes we do embellish certain aspects of reality in order to give you an "escape" sometimes.<BR/><BR/>I don't think the VV's are "slores" but it is hard to look at a woman who openly shows off in that manner on video, and take her seriously...its human, we feed off our sensual perceptions. So when you see a scantily clad chick compared to a more modest dressed one, it doesn't matter whether the modest one been sleeping round the block chances are you'll think the scantily clad mama is a hoochie.neohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482376355312549331noreply@blogger.com