tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post1771182370189029218..comments2023-11-05T05:17:45.320-05:00Comments on Model Minority "Thugs, Feminists and Boom Bap": The Removal of White FeministsM.Dot.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-18517454042046545282008-07-05T17:11:00.000-04:002008-07-05T17:11:00.000-04:00As a WOC I think aligning ourselves with mainstrea...As a WOC I think aligning ourselves with mainstream feminism is a mistake. To be clear feminism from its inception has never been about anything but improving the lives of rich/middle class white women. <BR/>I believe that it is important that we identify as womanist because it is clear that WOC face unique challenges that are clearly related race, class and gender. To that end we need to organize on mass and protest. <BR/>I don't believe in disavowing womens agency and advancement but I cannot own a label that seeks to consistently create me as other for the convenience of white women. It seems to me that many don't want equality for all women they want the equality to oppress bodies of color the same way that white men can. At this point ally status needs to be earned and not just granted.Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16388113393817266374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-61500712074048873082008-06-27T20:13:00.000-04:002008-06-27T20:13:00.000-04:00Ummmm "Intersectionality Costs"....says it like ho...Ummmm "Intersectionality Costs"....says it like homer.<BR/><BR/>Thank you Emma.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02692959772146739681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-85225192915696858322008-06-27T16:13:00.000-04:002008-06-27T16:13:00.000-04:00hey, you should read "the cost of club work" by D....hey, you should read "the cost of club work" by D. Gray White. discussion of the "costs" of intersectionality.eklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13499055496166381312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-23543498685747669422008-06-24T16:08:00.000-04:002008-06-24T16:08:00.000-04:00How do we go about discussing intersectionality? I...How do we go about discussing intersectionality? I think there is so much potential and usefulness to seeing these critical isms as symptoms of a larger systems of oppression that is connected to this racist, sexist, capitalist society. But how do we do it?RPoetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082399497674613513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-88914550910720256942008-06-24T12:14:00.000-04:002008-06-24T12:14:00.000-04:00If we talk about intersectionality, I think we hav...If we talk about intersectionality, I think we have to talk about systems, not just the symptoms of systems. Like sexism as a symptom of patriarchy and racism as a symptom of white supremacy.<BR/>========<BR/>I like that.<BR/><BR/>Its like that class part to whole argument shit in the law.<BR/><BR/>I have been playing around with this idea of choices being made within the realm of available options. So yeah.<BR/><BR/>Systems vs the symptoms rock.M.Dot.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05113752779973426025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-71575341293072201132008-06-24T11:07:00.000-04:002008-06-24T11:07:00.000-04:00you said "What appears to be operating the the cru...you said "What appears to be operating the the crux of the conflict within the Black Feminist movement and at Linda's beef with intersectonality, and Jills critique as well is an inability to agree on what being a feminist is."<BR/><BR/>I don't have an answer to this question but I'm wondering if part of this tension may stem from the role that an analysis of patriarchy plays in defining what feminism is. For example, if white woman are only trying to be more like men as hooks asserts, is there any critique of patriarchy, or is it just a critique of sexism? <BR/><BR/>If we talk about intersectionality, I think we have to talk about systems, not just the symptoms of systems. Like sexism as a symptom of patriarchy and racism as a symptom of white supremacy. i dont know. just a couple thoughts.matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01427584055629208482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-29668068212727002262008-06-24T10:53:00.000-04:002008-06-24T10:53:00.000-04:00Hi B,Its good to hear from you.I saw the manifesto...Hi B,<BR/><BR/>Its good to hear from you.<BR/><BR/>I saw the manifesto. Arrg. Pat Hill...she's good but the WORDS HUURRRRRT. <BR/><BR/>Man Listen. Get out of my head. I have a post in my head about how trill it is to be a Black woman right now. Like. For real for real.<BR/>On some skin ish, some property ish, and some "she ain't feminine enough ish", its tre tiring. So yeah. Its on my radar.Model Minorityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364810029145290617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-56856647157683981892008-06-24T10:39:00.000-04:002008-06-24T10:39:00.000-04:00What do you think about how Michelle Obama is bein...What do you think about how Michelle Obama is being portrayed by the media?RPoetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082399497674613513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14243811.post-90498333223436506672008-06-24T10:38:00.000-04:002008-06-24T10:38:00.000-04:00Thank you for this essay!It's refreshing to hear f...Thank you for this essay!It's refreshing to hear from a sista who actually discusses the need for feminism. hooks is right and many black feminists have made a similar case but also failed to come to terms with a clear agenda. There are several articles (i don't remember the website)that have been archived, writings by black feminists in the 70s and 80s. One title known as the Black Women's Manifesto. I can find it and send it to you. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Have you read Black Feminist Thought by Patricia Hill Collins?RPoetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082399497674613513noreply@blogger.com