Women Who Like Hip Hop Are Idiots. Pt. I.

While Idiots may be a strong term,
suffice it is to say that it is a challenge to
be a card carrying feminst that sings the words
to "It Ain't No Fun" at the club.

At the end of the day, it leaves us with
a WHOLE LOTTA reconciling to do.

Last March, TMR and I worked on a post on what
it means to be a woman who can quote bell hooks,
Rides for Common AND SING's "It Ain't No Fun"
like its Earth Wind and Fires "Shining Star".

Peep the lyrics.

When I Met You last Night Babaaay
Before you opened up your gap
I had respect for ya lady/But now I take it all back
Cause you gave me all your p*ssy/And ya even licked my balls
Leave your number on the cabinet/And I promise baby, I'll give ya a call

In the comment section, Jonzey remarked that, "Aye Blood, I be
thinking about that same sh*t too", which confirmed that this is something
that I NEEDED to write about.

Honestly, I have been saving it for the new Banner.
I posed a series of questions to TMR.

Below I have pasted an edited version of our responses.
I broke it up into TWO parts, because Gotty has got on
me about my albeit, enjoyable, yet long winded posts.

Enjoy.

M.Dot: What does it mean to know the words to Bitches Ain't Shit.

TMR: To know the lyrics to Bitches ain't Shit et.al. began with an immediate connection to the song in the simplest manner�Da' beat. As I put on my headphones to listen to my Doggystyle cassette I had no idea what Kurupt was talking bout.

" I have no love for hoes
That's somethin I learned in the pound

M.Dot: You mean to tell me that you never felt this way.

Like, "Sure he cool, but I don't love him."

TMR: Oh, well yeah…at first. I remember having a conversation with the dudes on my block about me listening to songs that talk about mashing chicks and calling them bitches and such. They tried to get at me as if I shouldn't have been listening to such lyrics.

Take into consideration I was only about 13 or 14 and these dudes were the street dudes hollering at everything walking down the block with the ole "well ph*ck u then" if the female didn't give them the time of day. Haha. My whole argument was based on the fact that bitches do exist and that's who they were talking about…and I'm not that bitch, I'm that other chick.

I used to define "bitch" exclusively for black women who did ill things and therefore deserved this label but Snoop made me understand the word "bitch" could be mutually exclusive for the ill female and for bitch nickas too.

In retrospect, maybe it wasn't just da beats, maybe it was the command of their voices when they rapped about something they felt they had control over� Women, violence and money. Maybe my poverty made me feel a connection based on oppression�

M.dot: Some bitches AINT shit.nThis doesn't make the song any less harmful.

TMR: Naw, but I don't call women or men bitches�well except in the case of a rap lyric. People do shady ass ish and in the case of an emergency I reserve the right to call either sex by the appropriate name.

M.dot: I never usto either. Probly comes from seeing mad n*ggas murked/ fights started over somebody calling someone elses momma/b.momma a b*tch. I say it all the time now.

TMR: Rappers who chose to not follow the rights of passage of disrespecting the female Black body to go gold and platinum risk the scrutiny of being labeled as a "conscious rapper" thereby limiting the audience that rapper is allowed to attract.

"If skills sold
Truth be told
I'd probably be
Lyricly
Talib Kweli
Truthfully
I wanna rhyme like Common Sense
(But i did five Mil)
I ain't been rhymin like Common Sense "~Jay Z

M.dot: Who wrote that rhyme? Was that Jay?

TMR: Yeah. Phuck Jay even realizes this. but the ultimate goal in capitalism is what" Say it with me now $. And niggas be checking that integrity 'ish at the door.

Why? Cause given the opportunity to throw some bitches, hoes, guns and foes in for some cash� Shit, I might have to reconsider my whole feminist theory. Naw, just playing. But look at the situation/economic classes of most of these rappers� These are dudes from the street where schools are deplorable, families are single headed, wages are considered below poverty so this is the price to escape these conditions.

If lyrics sold then truth be told
I'll probably be just as rich and famous as jay-z
Truthfully I wanna rhyme like common sense
Next best thing I do a record with common sense ~Kweli

M Dot? And what about the female rapper that aint on some lil kim "throw lips to the ____" ish?

TMR: Yeah Kim was fun, she said all the things I wanted to but were afraid of. She taught me the power of the p*ssy, but sometimes I think she used the p*ssy as a front. Somehow I think she was more than that but since her use of the p*ssy got her famous that was all she was destined for. Female rappers who ain't checkin for the hypersexual persona ain't getting checked for. Period. How dope is Jean Grae, and she just getting on a semi major label with the whole Blacksmith deal. WTF!!!!

M.dot: Jean don't have mass appeal.

Music is marketing.

Nor do the Clipse, Kweli or .......
But now. Half the sh*t we like don't have mass appeal.

"Controversy works, and plus I got a pussy/
but even with that, people scared to push me/
who's a pussy first?"~ Jean Grae

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So. Do you all think we are hypocrites?

Or do you think we are taking life as it comes
and trying to make/find a way for ourselves?

Are the Vixens "Slores"?

When was the last time you found yourself singing
the lyrics to some outta pocket sh*t?

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